Comments on: The World Needs to Come Together to Deal With the Somali Piracy Issue http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/ Political Opinions Of, By, and For The People Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:15:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Piracy in the Indian Ocean on the Decline | We The People Politics http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-920 Piracy in the Indian Ocean on the Decline | We The People Politics Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:14:31 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-920 [...] companies that go through that area on a regular basis. As many might remember, back in April, the Maersk Alabama was hijacked and the captain was held for a few days. In the end, President Obama gave authorization for a Navy [...] [...] companies that go through that area on a regular basis. As many might remember, back in April, the Maersk Alabama was hijacked and the captain was held for a few days. In the end, President Obama gave authorization for a Navy [...]

]]> By: Where Did Modern Day Pirates Come From? « make money online easy http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Where Did Modern Day Pirates Come From? « make money online easy Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:10:26 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-901 [...] One of the topics that is touched on from time to time is what should be done about the Somali Pirate issues. Recommend : [...] [...] One of the topics that is touched on from time to time is what should be done about the Somali Pirate issues. Recommend : [...]

]]> By: Fighting Pirates With Privateers | We The People Politics http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-512 Fighting Pirates With Privateers | We The People Politics Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:56:04 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-512 [...] the case last week of the Somali pirates taking Captain Philips hostage and trying to hijack a container ship, there has been a considerable [...] [...] the case last week of the Somali pirates taking Captain Philips hostage and trying to hijack a container ship, there has been a considerable [...]

]]> By: Jacob Cohen Donnelly http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Jacob Cohen Donnelly Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:22:52 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-510 Why should we have to provide funding to another country, especially after they've tried to screw us? It just doesn't make sense to provide funding to Somalia when it is a corrupt nation and in turn, still have them pirating. They make millions on a single ship and yet they continue to do it. Criminals are going to continue doing whatever it takes to make more money. It's about power. It's not always about giving the foreign government money. It's about making it obvious that what they're doing is punishable by either arrest or death. Why should we have to provide funding to another country, especially after they’ve tried to screw us? It just doesn’t make sense to provide funding to Somalia when it is a corrupt nation and in turn, still have them pirating. They make millions on a single ship and yet they continue to do it. Criminals are going to continue doing whatever it takes to make more money. It’s about power. It’s not always about giving the foreign government money. It’s about making it obvious that what they’re doing is punishable by either arrest or death.

]]> By: Stephen Ghostlaw http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Stephen Ghostlaw Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:43:39 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-509 When that day comes, Jacob, pray. At that day, private industry seeks to become the new government, and we'll have to arm ourselves against them as well. Anyway, I am haunted by something a little more pressing, as I stated before. Instead of simply fighting and killing Somali pirates, why not deal with what's creating them? While we may be upset or angered at these attacks, the pirates are only trying to supply their depressingly destitute country. Somali's economy is in even worse shape than most third world countries in the world. Why not, instead of just killing pirates as they crop up, stop what's producing them at the source and aid Somali in attempting to create a stable government and economy for them? When that day comes, Jacob, pray. At that day, private industry seeks to become the new government, and we’ll have to arm ourselves against them as well. Anyway, I am haunted by something a little more pressing, as I stated before. Instead of simply fighting and killing Somali pirates, why not deal with what’s creating them? While we may be upset or angered at these attacks, the pirates are only trying to supply their depressingly destitute country. Somali’s economy is in even worse shape than most third world countries in the world. Why not, instead of just killing pirates as they crop up, stop what’s producing them at the source and aid Somali in attempting to create a stable government and economy for them?

]]> By: Jacob Cohen Donnelly http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-508 Jacob Cohen Donnelly Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:53:05 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-508 Good news is, Captain Philips was released by the pirates and apparently three of them are dead. So, all the pirates have been dealt with since one of them surrendered to the United States and the final one was killed in a fire fight. I agree with you, Stephen. It is important that these companies keep their people safe, but in their eyes, it's about profit. The most money you can make from a shipment is the ideal amount. I'm just waiting to see these private companies start producing their own versions of warships to protect themselves. Good news is, Captain Philips was released by the pirates and apparently three of them are dead. So, all the pirates have been dealt with since one of them surrendered to the United States and the final one was killed in a fire fight. I agree with you, Stephen. It is important that these companies keep their people safe, but in their eyes, it’s about profit. The most money you can make from a shipment is the ideal amount. I’m just waiting to see these private companies start producing their own versions of warships to protect themselves.

]]> By: Stephen Ghostlaw http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-507 Stephen Ghostlaw Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:18:45 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-507 So pretty much, this lack of desire to protect their employees from becoming hostages is an effect of rich people not wanting to be smart enough to arm their employees to deal with problems themselves. Sounds about right. After all, what good have rich people ever been at doing anything useful? That aside, there also is the danger that one of the employees might just snap and kill a bunch of people on the boat. That's another logical issue, but still, not as important the risk as fighting pirates. So pretty much, this lack of desire to protect their employees from becoming hostages is an effect of rich people not wanting to be smart enough to arm their employees to deal with problems themselves. Sounds about right. After all, what good have rich people ever been at doing anything useful? That aside, there also is the danger that one of the employees might just snap and kill a bunch of people on the boat. That’s another logical issue, but still, not as important the risk as fighting pirates.

]]> By: Jacob Cohen Donnelly http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-506 Jacob Cohen Donnelly Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:01:01 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-506 By giving them weapons, an article said, the companies would have to pay for liability insurance and they don't feel that it is worth it. They'd just rather pay the ransom money and then not have to worry about that insurance. I agree with you, though. Give them guns and they'll be able to defend against this. However, there is no law that says, "thou shalt not bring gun aboard this ship." It's simply a case of not wanting to pay for the insurance. By giving them weapons, an article said, the companies would have to pay for liability insurance and they don’t feel that it is worth it. They’d just rather pay the ransom money and then not have to worry about that insurance. I agree with you, though. Give them guns and they’ll be able to defend against this. However, there is no law that says, “thou shalt not bring gun aboard this ship.” It’s simply a case of not wanting to pay for the insurance.

]]> By: Trevor Jones http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Trevor Jones Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:49 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-504 Had it ever occurred to the owners of these ships that if they gave their workers the ability to defend themselves they might have stopped the piracy problem completely? I know that if these guys had some M-4s or some AK-47s in an ams locker, and they were approached by a rubber raft full of pirates, could put up a decent fight. This is a microcosm of the whole 2nd Amendment issue... giving people the right to defend themselves instead of waiting for a hostage rescue team... 3 hours away on a destroyer. Give me a break... these pirates exist because the people of Somalia are starving from war after war. That's why they rob. But at the same time, these workers and their cargo should be able to be defended with force. Force against force. You don't need destroyers to fight off a bunch of emaciated terrible shots like the Somalis. Give the workers guns, end of story. Had it ever occurred to the owners of these ships that if they gave their workers the ability to defend themselves they might have stopped the piracy problem completely? I know that if these guys had some M-4s or some AK-47s in an ams locker, and they were approached by a rubber raft full of pirates, could put up a decent fight. This is a microcosm of the whole 2nd Amendment issue… giving people the right to defend themselves instead of waiting for a hostage rescue team… 3 hours away on a destroyer.
Give me a break… these pirates exist because the people of Somalia are starving from war after war. That’s why they rob. But at the same time, these workers and their cargo should be able to be defended with force. Force against force.
You don’t need destroyers to fight off a bunch of emaciated terrible shots like the Somalis. Give the workers guns, end of story.

]]> By: Stephen Ghostlaw http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/the-world-needs-to-come-together-to-deal-with-the-somali-piracy-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-503 Stephen Ghostlaw Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:08:33 +0000 http://www.wethepeoplepolitics.com/?p=711#comment-503 "But first thing that needs to be realized is that the US does not negotiate with terrorists." It is ignorant statements like that that remind me every day of why the United States is slowly moving towards being a third rate world power. I know this concept is hard for Americans to grasp, but what is a terrorist to us isn't a terrorist, but a hero normally, to someone else. Also, the label of "terrorist" is a nice way to singling out some group that people feel threatened by. For the most part, its an easy way for white people to label groups of darker skin colored ethnicities and gives us a reason to be racist against the said mentioned groups. However, I agree with Jacob completely. These pirates, despite the romanticized modern notion of pirates as being noble, are a threat to the global structure. So long as they are looting, we must deal with them in the form of a world united front. However, I think we should investigate the real problem that exists from these pirates: Why are pirates coming out of Somali to begin with? Once that has an answer, from there proper action can be taken to first overcome this threat, and then to limit the chance for it to happen again. “But first thing that needs to be realized is that the US does not negotiate with terrorists.”

It is ignorant statements like that that remind me every day of why the United States is slowly moving towards being a third rate world power. I know this concept is hard for Americans to grasp, but what is a terrorist to us isn’t a terrorist, but a hero normally, to someone else. Also, the label of “terrorist” is a nice way to singling out some group that people feel threatened by. For the most part, its an easy way for white people to label groups of darker skin colored ethnicities and gives us a reason to be racist against the said mentioned groups.

However, I agree with Jacob completely. These pirates, despite the romanticized modern notion of pirates as being noble, are a threat to the global structure. So long as they are looting, we must deal with them in the form of a world united front. However, I think we should investigate the real problem that exists from these pirates: Why are pirates coming out of Somali to begin with? Once that has an answer, from there proper action can be taken to first overcome this threat, and then to limit the chance for it to happen again.

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